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Friday, October 30, 1981

Monday Open Thread

This is your open thread for today. Please post random links and off-topic discussions here.

10 comments:

Surkanstance said...

Apparently rental rates are falling like a rock in south Florida.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061029/NEWS/610290603

Maybe the reason we are seeing divergent trends (up in some places, down in others) in rents around the country is simply an indicator as to the different stages of the popping bubble each region is in. South Florida is just further along the trends than the Puget Sound.

PugetHouse said...

The election is getting close. I'd love to see some discussion on I-933. The initiative looks to me like a Trojan Horse aimed at manipulating WA/RE for the benefit of REIT's, one of the fastest-growing investment sectors.

I wouldn't want to commandeer the thread if there's insufficient interest. Are at least three people up for discussing I-933?

The Tim said...

Nobody wants 25 junk cars in their neighbor's front yard...

...and you know a thing or two about junk cars, don't you?

;^)

Michael said...

Prohibiting houses painted a certain color?

most HOA already do that...

Shadowed said...

Prohibiting houses painted a certain color?

Already have this in a non-governmental way -- Homeowners Associations. I'm a libertarian at heart, so private property rights trump as far as I'm concerned. I do understand that people might not want to look at their neighbors' RVs or something, but that's the price of living in society. As long as it's not infringing on someone else (and that isn't IMO), then they have a right to do it. The offended neighbor is free to move somewhere they don't have to see their neighbors -- which is what I want to do.

Shadowed said...

most HOA already do that...

Which is yet another reason why I will never live under a HOA.

PugetHouse said...

I'm glad to see some democratic ideals out there. The thing about I-933 is that it has two main parts:

I. Compensating property owners for "legislative takings"

II. A bunch of other crap to subsidize the starving lawyers.

It's amazingly subtle and deceptive. I'm 100% for the protections from legislative taking. The riders, however, are terrible, and frankly, bizarre.

Matthew said...

When does everyone predict we will see the first YOY price depreciation?

MisterBubble said...

"What I find interesting is the huge amount of $$$ that the powers-that-be are spending to defeat this measure--I have maybe only seen one pro-933 ad on TV, compared to hundreds and hundreds of anti-933 ads. This fact alone makes me really want to vote for it."

That's a really silly instinct. Do you also want to drive drunk and shoot heroin because huge amounts of money have been spent to discourage you from doing so?

I-933 is a poster child for the problems of the initiative system. It's special-interest legislation, backed by a handful of rich lobbyists, that would never in a million years be passed by a responsible legislative process.

"I think that 933 is an effort to tip the scales back towards the center a bit. It will not remove all land use restrictions, and certainly will NOT cost the gov't anywhere near what the scare-tactic ads claim (all based upon that one study from urban liberals at the UW) it will."

Now that I know that your sharp mind is on the case, I guess I can sleep soundly, while ignoring the opinions of the many, many people with legal training and experience who disagree with you.

But hey...that's the problem with those "urban liberals" ain't it? Their fancy-pantsy "knowledge" is always gettin' in the way of their action!. Yee-haw!

Shadowed said...

I've also seen signs for "real estate apprentice, make $20k/mo". Homemade signs at that, really makes me want to sign up.